Sicko:
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I'm sorry, but this is *SPAM*. What's it doing in a tribe about kick-ass rogue-like games? What's it doing in most of the tribes it was posted to? Treat all spam equally and perhaps people will see the folly of it. - Steven , posted 12/13/07 |
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After seeing that movie I just want to get out of the US. I actually researched moving out of the US for a few years...Monico is sure looking really nice right now! On a more realistic note, my co-worker's 25 year old daughter who has no insurance went to the ER over the weekend for stomach pains. They took x-rays and sent her immediately to a specialist because the test results were showing tears in her muscle. She went to the specialist, who told her that there was nothing wrong with her and sent her home. She has been laying on her couch for almost a week now in horrible pain. I just can't help but wonder... - Atalya , posted 12/12/07 |
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I saw it and loved it. Michael Moore should run for president. He'd have my vote. - Kali , posted 08/31/07 |
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i thought it was great. i am in health care...on the preventative side. the government should do more to prevent and when something does happen provide for it's peeps - Lindsey , posted 08/29/07 |
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Finally someone shows the TRUTH about our broken healthcare system. I have worked in healthcare for 16+ years & know first hand what a death grip (no pun intended) the insurance & drug companies have on us. People need to wake up to the reality that America is no longer #1 in MANY areas. Even if you dislike M. Moore, facts are facts. Look at any of the ratings for infant mortality etc. & see the ugly truth of how far this country has fallen. Good on ya Mike & keep up the fight. K - Kennedy , posted 08/05/07 |
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I gave this 1 star because it wouldn't let me give it a lower rating. This pos wouldn't know the truth if it came and kicked him in his big fat ass. But hey lets not let a little thing like the truth get in the way of another one of his crockumentarys . "There are nearly 50 million Americans without health insurance" However, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” puts the initial number of uninsured people living in the country at 46.577 million. A closer look at that report reveals the Census data include 9.487 million people who are “not a citizen.” Subtracting the 10 million non-Americans, the number of uninsured Americans falls to roughly 37 million. On his Web site, Moore claimed the Census Bureau had “underreported” the number of people without health insurance. But Cheryl Hill Lee, a co-author of the Census Bureau study Moore was citing, told the Business & Media Institute that the data showed the exact opposite of what Moore said. The Census “underreported” the number of people covered by health insurance – meaning that more people have insurance than the report suggests. The Census also underreported the number of people covered by Medicare and Medicaid. But according to the same Census report, there are 8.3 million uninsured people who make between $50,000 and $74,999 per year and 8.74 million who make more than $75,000 a year. That’s roughly 17 million people who ought to be able to “afford” health insurance because they make substantially more than the median household income of $46,326. {so far thats 9.4 +8.3 +8.7 = 26.4 million } so if we subtract those numbers from Moors claim of 50 million we come to about 23.6 million . which is closer to 7% of the united states population . “Many Americans are uninsured by choice,” wrote Dr. David Gratzer in his book “The Cure: How Capitalism Can Save American Health Care.” Gratzer cited a study of the “nonpoor uninsured” from the California Healthcare Foundation. “Why the lack of insurance [among people who own homes and computers]? One clue is that 60 percent reported being in excellent health or very good health,” explained Gratzer. www.businessandmedia.org/artic...r.aspx and finally if Cubas health care is so great why did Castro have to bring doctors in from Spain ? there is a two tear health care system in Cuba one for the haves one for the have nots do a serch on the truth about Cubas have not health care system . and before I'm flamed about not knowing what I'm talking about or being a tool for the health care system . I'm poor , I have a chronic illness , I have not wanted for health care coverage , i get my $2k a month drugs covered , I have my doctor and dental needs meet . This is just more lies from Moore. I wouldn't waist my money to support this pos . - mo
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posted 07/28/07
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Not his best film, but still pissed me off somethin' fierce. - Luki , posted 07/28/07 |
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Just saw the film last night. My friend began squirming in her seat and I wasn't clear if it was from the subject matter or SiCKO was just too long. Michael Moore could've shaved a half hour off the running time and focused more on the politics of why the system is broken (I like it when he's genuinely pissed off). Either way, like his past few efforts, every American should see this movie, write your congressman, protest on Capital Hill and clog the phone lines of the AMA with complaint calls. Oh wait, we don’t do that here. - Chadland , posted 07/27/07 |
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good movie and if you dont think we need national health care itl be nice when you dont have insurance and break your leg or arm to realize that know one gives a shit ..or when you get old that you will most likley loose everything you worked for to pay for your nursing home or heart attack the movie however wasnt as informative as i had hoped and the peops who watch it already believe we need universal health care...it just really suprises me though that there are soo manyt selfish poeple on tribe when i look at these posts...very disapointing for sure - robert , posted 07/23/07 |
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Though Moore is a messenger and is occasionally prophetic, I fail to see any messianic pretensions in any of his films – unlike several right wing talk show hosts I could mention. Vitriol is such lame way to start a discussion. With respect to your points: First: If my house caught fire and it contained hazardous material of which I was aware and I did not warn volunteers of it; yes, I would be legally responsible if any of them were hurt by it. As to the trip to Cuba, I can understand your aversion to irony. What was it Bush promised to be; the “unifier”. I would imagine the right wing in general would have serious problems with irony these days. Does the government “care” about our health? We do have a health care program, albeit one of the worst in the world. But it is there. But it is, in fact, designed more to ensure private sector profit than promote health. That is really not a revelation. (By the way several members of my family are in the health care industry and they are all fully in accord with Moore's position.) As to the Al Qaida prisoners in Guantanamo getting free health care from the US... again irony seems not be your strong suit. Did you notice how clean (and unused) those clinics looked? All those colonoscopies… do really think colon cancer is that big risk? And so few anesthetizations. Sounds a tad painful to me. And I have to love this: “most of the AL Qaida prisoners will probably be sentenced to die anyway”. Why, because George Bush says they are Al Qaida. (We all know that the government always gets it right. The right wing is always quick to assure us of that.) Hatred comes so easy to so many. Even when it is blind…. Maybe especially when it is blind - Arthur , posted 07/10/07 |
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I have lived in a country with socialized "universal" health care. It is not the roses and puppy dogs crap this idiot is trying to portray. If you wish to pay 20% of your income or more for taxes in order to get the substandard, low-quality, wait-till-your-teeth-rot-to-pull-them-out kinda health care, then by all means, volunteer that. I won't do it. Health care is not a right. Health care is not guaranteed by the Constitution. The government should not be forcing individuals to treat other individuals. - Wendy , posted 07/07/07 |
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SiCKO is an essay in the best sense. It's fun, it's informative, it's inspired and original. Moore gets better every time, in my opinion. I truly believe folks who argue his points have an agenda that bumps up against the truth! Every argument I've read--and I've looked--against his films are just lame and can't hold up against artistic license. Notice that the guy who wrote the LONG, meandering negative review above just came on tribe to say that! Seriously, look. That good ole neocon agenda trying to creative negativity where there really should just be discussion! namaste, Matthew - RockNamasteady , posted 07/07/07 |
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Mike Moore is the Studs Turkel of the 21st century Ω - St0shEr , posted 07/05/07 |
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Sure he doesn't tell the WHOLE story, but he focuses on and tells other peoples' stories. We need to realize what exactly goes on with insurance companies in our country. He shows us what other folks have been through, and a great deal of people die because of decisions made on reimbursement not medical necessity. And as for what is going on in Canada, U.K., France, and Cuba - NO we don't need to be just like them, but we could possibly learn something from it. Yes, their economies are very different and he doesn't really touch on that much. I just wish that he had also visited New Zealand.... I want somebody to explain how their country has no homeless folk. In short, I give this movie 5 stars because it is something worthwhile for anyone to watch, whether you have insurance or not, because we all end up seeing a doctor sooner or later and have to deal with how things are done in America. Best healthcare, and most costly to us as well. - Rebhel , posted 07/05/07 |
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what I find fascinating about the movie is the polarization it seems to cause, I see many reveiws with 4-5 stars and others with just one (if they could do less than that I'm sure they would). Moore is obnoxious, but so is Limbaugh, both are fat and one's a conservative and the other liberal but you don't hear conservatives dismissiong limbaugh for his weight or his obnoxiousness and you hear liberals making the same mention of limbaugh's weight and obnoxious biased behavior. Oh, there is a way fer' sure that Micheal Moore could have not only lost some weight, but behaved as prim and civilized as a PBS liberal. But what percentage of the populace would that reach. He could be apologetic, try to advance his position with less moral certainty that he's right, but then that feed into the whole "liberals are whimps" stereotype... no? He does a good job of presenting the information; yes, propeganda in a format that a trucker or a hairdresser will feel moved by and feel they can understand. So it's a little less articulate than some academically minded people would like, but conservatives have been playing the same game reaching the same nascar fans and diner waitresses by speaking their language for some time now... as in the case of our president's stammering speeches which sound like he got his diploma from a county college. That's deliberate fellas, and it works, and well Moore does communicates it well, and shockingly. I could say "well, really as bad as he makes it" maybe the system works more than it doesn't, but y'know he makes the point that we do hear mostly the same propeganda from the same people supporting it and against socialized medicine. Socialized medicine ultimately is a good or a bad thing depending on who you are. If you are someone fairly poor that wouldn't have to pay a lot of tax to begin with, but working the low pay jobs that make up the base of america's wealth pyramid... the additional taxes for healthcare would probably not be anymore than that employee having to buy insurance for themselves where many can't afford it anyway. Perhaps up to a certain level, lifestyles wouldn't change that much, Canadians aren't exactly walking around without shoes and threadbare and live in suburban homes much like ours (i've driven there many times, it seemed like just a different state rather than a different country). But beyond a certain level socialized medicine would create limitations on them, caps, some employers would find it harder to retain employees particularly in industries where many people only work there and don't do the same job as sole proprietors for themselves because they feel they need the healthcare. I'm between careers and working a job at a wal-mart just for healthcare I normally would never want to work, and probably would do something else much more rewarding, my artwork, volunteer in a feild related to the kind of career I want if I didn't have to worry about healthcare. I bet if socialized medicine ever became a reality, a lot of employers would hear "i quit" so outside of the tax burden they'd find on their personal incomes, they'd lose a lot of leverage on employees, perhaps have to spend more or offer other benefits just to try to keep them, which means they get a smaller slice of the profit-pie. The question is, who's rights matter more? The majority of working people, or the relative minority of moderately wealthy to rich buisiness owners? Lately it's been a steady journey since the seventies to the minority of wealthy mattering more, perhaps that pendulum has swung as far to the right as it can possibly go and now it's own momentum may take it back the other way over the next two decades. Moore might be on the vangard of something. - Irony's Prophet , posted 07/05/07 |
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I don't always agree with the way Moore makes his points, but his "in your face" stunts amuse the hell out of me -- I've always wanted to have the balls to drive a powerboat through a minefield to make a point. He always tackles issues that people don't want to acknowledge, and say what you will about him, he always gets a dialogue started. Pros: he points out that our medical system is based on greed and that Nixon is to blame for it. Cons: He doesn't talk about France's 30% unemployment and other problems with socialized medicine. This all being said, I am glad I live in San Francisco. We just impelmented a comprehensive Health Care program ( www.sfhp.org/HealthySanFrancisco/ ) and I hope that folks across the country sit up and take notice -- if there's going to be any change, it's got to be grassroots because I just don't see the fed exercising Imminent Domain and seizing all the hospitals and medical establishments even though I think they should. - Darren , posted 07/05/07 |
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the head of eli lilly is one of the favored few that sits on the board of homeland security. this drug company giant has forced many poisons onto our public. and now the food and drug administration itself is owned by the current political administration... …so oil giants and drug companies can set any price they want for their products... and they no longer have to answer to oversight commities... michael moore, if you like him or hate him... is absoluty correct in his facts and is actually trying to save your life. the state of the usa's health care is now lower than any other developed country... and lower than many of the undeveloped nations. - D'ner , posted 07/05/07 |
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Well, I saw it last night and I have to say, Michael Moore should be ashamed of himself for acting like the Jesus Christ of health care. This movie is an insult to the families of the people who work in the health care industry, the 911 workers and America in general. He should have NEVER taken those 911 workers to Cuba for "free" healthcare, they should have dealt with there own problems as they were VOLUNTEERS, not payroll employees (who all did get health care, ok??). It would be like if your house was burning down and some random people came to help you and they got hurt...NOT YOUR PROBLEM. This movie is evil because he makes you think that the govt does not care about our health and we all know that's BS. And I don't believe that Cuba has better health care than the US, were are the statistics?? I think he made that up, along with a lot of other "facts" that this FAT FAT FAT GLUTTONUS man comes up with. Do you know that doctors in Cuba drive Yugos???? They have rusty, crappy cars everywhere and there health care is FREE??? What's wrong with this picture people! Don't believe the hype this movie is pure liberal propaganda with no heart or soul. Ugh, and the whole thing about Al Qaida prisoners in Guantanamo getting free health care from the US...well yeah, they need to be healthy to get information MICHAEL YOU FATTY PIG FAT BACON BOY. So, his point that Al Qaida gets free health care and 911 workers suffer and go bankrupt from medical bills is BOGUS, as most of the AL Qaida prisoners will probably be sentenced to die anyway. So don't go see this movie, there is nothing important about it unless you get off on watching sad mommies cry because their babies or husbands or brothers died from being denied healthcare. It's all propaganda to make you think the billions of dollars that gets pumped into our economy from healthcare is blood money. We all know it's not. I have Kaiser and I am fine MICHEAL....You need some Jenny Craig meals PUFFO. There is only one JESUS CHRIST MICHAEL, and he does not like it when fat humans pretend to be him. Go save some Ding Dongs from a long torturous shelf life. Why don't you go live in France if like it so much COMMIE. And I'm sorry but all those govt doctors in Europe driving new cars and living in million dollar homes...they are so smug it's disgusting, like "I have my cake and eat it to" grins on their faces. They have no clue about reality! We probably are paying their bills! Ok, I'm just so upset right now I'm shaking....this movie is bad news, it should be banned, I can't figure out why it's not, it's all LIES and PROPAGANDA from the FATTEST HIPPO CRATE MILLIONAIRE IN THE WORLD. - slovak , posted 07/05/07 |
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None of the people that gave this documentary one star said they saw the this film. Having seen it myself, I think it was an excellent documentary, and that I am saying because I actually did see it. My only wish was that Moore had gone more in depth with how much more money we have been paying for health insurance and not getting much out of it. - Tedster , posted 07/05/07 |
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haven't seen SiCKO yet, but will get the DVD and donate to my local library after viewing .. Michael's voice, while many find grating and seek fault, is just one side, but a side that has few forums or places where it may be heard .. see it, hear it, decide for yourself .. the issue of affordable health care *for all* may well be one of the seminal issues in next year's presidential campaign .. expect tons of mud to be slung by the hired gunslingers, tke it all in with an appropriate salt dome near you - ron , posted 07/05/07 |
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It's funny how so many people hate him and just don't get the message that he is telling. Yes, this system is broken. And no, you shouldn't need his film to tell you that. But hopefully it would get you off your typical American ass and take some action! I doubt that the haters actually do anything other than hate. I doubt they write their congressmen, or even inform others on how to take action. Anyhow, I think that Sicko is a little bit of a departure from Moore's style of documentary. It's still the same format of film but presented very well. Once you have seen the film, I think that it would be hard to argue the facts presented. The system is broken people! And your representatives should not rest until it is fixed. - Unagi
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posted 07/05/07
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...at least Moore got a haircut and a shave and took off that stupid trucker hat. I do agree, he can be annoying, and although I generally agree with his point of view, he may be doing a disservice in the obviously slanted way he presents things. But he's 1,000 times less annoying than Adam Sandler, or apparently these days, Robin Williams. - Mark
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posted 07/05/07
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Why would people review this movie if the have not seen it? This is worth your time. The govt would like this movie to vanish. At least download the torrent and watch it at home in your spare time before you cry foul. - M.Parisi , posted 07/05/07 |
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Like "Columbine," Moore draws some surprising conclusions. By talking about about health care, the film opens up some areas for discussion, and exposes some myths. It would be great if health were only a state of mind, but we are not all so lucky. Routine blood work can easily run over a thousand dollars. Accidents happen to the most progressive people. One small health crisis can wipe out all your savings and leave you with out the means to work. Moore himself is a piece of work. He is deliberately annoying. I find his style comical, and self aggrandizing.If anything, his moviesshould inspire others to make there own documentaries. - ghôti , posted 07/05/07 |
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This is for even suggesting that people should be flocking around illness protection in the abstract form of insurance. Instead, perhaps Moore should get some exercise and put out a movie about how to avoid needing to go to a western doctor at all...you know, how to live healthy. I haven't had health insurance for 6 years, and I haven't needed it. Health starts in the mind. - Veru Mamo , posted 07/04/07 |
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I cannot stand Moore-- and I certainly don't need to watch one of his films to realize that our "health" care system needs reform. - <-·´¯`·.(¯`•¸·´¯)... , posted 07/04/07 |
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Im hoping people wake up in America.This film is at both inspiring and for me me almost the final warning have had to get a job with insurance and still not receiving the service I deserve.Please tell all your friends to go see it. - fernando , posted 07/04/07 |
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Americans should be ashamed of the healthcare they receive in this country. You won't believe what it's like in Europe... - Maple
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posted 07/04/07
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